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Gravity and Aether



50 responses to “Gravity and Aether

  1. P.G. Sharrow February 8, 2012 at 12:13 am

    The representation of the atomic structure is difficult as the nucleon is so small within the electron shell. It is said that if the proton was the size of a basketball the electron shell would be the size of the United States. About 1 foot to 3,000 miles!

    This is a different technique to create a page in open office draw and up load as a pgn file. One way to get art work but I think I need to refine this better. 😐 pg

  2. adolfogiurfa February 8, 2012 at 7:30 am

    A really clever description. The primeval triangle of forces, electricity and magnetism at a 90º angle, the movement of charges opposed by an already existing exterior field. A “congealed wave”, as relatively seen by the observer, becomes a “solid” body, be it a planet or any “particle”.

  3. P.G. Sharrow February 8, 2012 at 8:01 am

    Good morning Adolfo, I plan to create several pages with this format to demonstrate basic fundamentals. Your triangle of forces also needs to be a part, to explain the results of charge in motion and the changes of forces during changes in motion. pg

  4. Zeke February 8, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Thank you PG for further enumerating your thoughts on gravity and aether.

    I am quite familiar with gravity being a weak electric force, slightly offsetsetting atomic nuclei (Electric Universe), which goes a long way to explaining many of the anomalous accelerations and decelerations we see from the Voyager spacecrafts and some of the comets. – They have picked up a charge difference, from their movements through the sun’s electric field, altering their masses slightly. It is also interesting because many of us feel that the earth had less gravity in the past. This may have been altered by a change in the electrical charge of the planet, if gravity is a weak electrical force which is happening at an atomic level.

    And the rest is quite interesting to think over!

  5. adolfogiurfa February 9, 2012 at 8:21 am

    @Zeke: An experiment for our dear P.G: Make an electromagnet with a coil connected to a DC source, then connect a variable resistance to each of the two wires and play changing the power of each of them. See what happens.

  6. P.G. Sharrow February 9, 2012 at 9:58 am

    @ Zeke; I am not sure that gravity is such a weak force, it is part of the forces that hold atomic structures together, it is just applied over very large distances. A linear accelerator of 300 volts over 1 meter is quite weak appearing per meter, applied over millions of miles is quite impressive. The concept that local gravity may be changeable is one that I have considered for a long time. It appears to me that some changes in weather systems are the result of local changes in gravity. Changes in the effects of gravity caused by the local aether density might also be seen. Actually I don’t like calling gravity a thing, it is just an effect caused by electrostatic forces acting through aether to cause acceleration due to atomic warpage.

    @Adolfo; I’m not sure of the need of such an experiment that you describe. Resistance changes on each leg of a DC powered coil would appear to the coil as changes in potential voltage across the coil. From the coils’ point of view, only the voltage potential that it sees is important as that sets the current flow that is possible and therefor the magnetic field that can be created. Whether one resistance or many, the total resistance to the current flow, caused by the voltage potential applied, is the result. Higher or lower voltage does not result in more or less electrons being present and therefor greater or less emf effects. Only greater or less current flow results in changes in emf effects due to more or less electron quanta movements. pg

  7. Zeke February 9, 2012 at 11:04 am

    When you say, “atomic warpage,” I think you are on the right track. In Electric Universe terms this means:

    “Radially oriented electrostatic dipoles are formed by most atoms inside the Earth with the inner pole positive and the outer pole negative.” ~W. Thornhill

    So when you say “warpage,” are you referring to atomic alignment of dipoles, so that the protons tend downward?

    I think the megafauna and megaflora are possible clues to there having been less gravity in the past. It also may explain how some of the most enormous stone structures were erected by man – conditions were different on earth. Or perhaps you are referring to small regional differences.

  8. P.G. Sharrow February 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    @Zeke;From my point of view the warpage is internal to the atomic structure, protons tend to be toward the center of mass. However this would also tend to orient molecular dipoles in the same manner.
    The moving of great weights only requires that the weight of the traction units exceed the weight of the object. 10 full size men can drag up to a ton of dead weight. With the use of levers, rollers and other simple devices, amazing things can be accomplished. I have created and moved rather large things with no power assistance, by myself. By the time of the Romans they were moving cut stones up to 6,000 tons dead weight! Now that was a BIG rock!
    At present we know of only small differences and changes in local gravity. As to mega flora & fauna, I think that food and air density would be of more importance for size difference. We should also consider predators and wide changes in weather / climate as larger sizes mean better survivability. pg

  9. adolfogiurfa February 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @Zeke: I was thinking that the angle of orientation of the resultant magnetic field would result.

  10. Ralph B February 28, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    To me this makes the most sense…having an aether through which forces are transmitted. I have never been able to grasp how a force which is made of nothing can cause a reaction through nothing on any other object. A differential pressure pressure in the aether makes sense. It would also match well with the rapid expansion of the universe. Right now the theory is “space” expanded, aether expanding as its pressure drops now that I can understand. Quantum entanglement again matches well…
    Why is it you don’t see anyone else exploring this?

  11. adolfogiurfa February 29, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Ralph B: The only way for the universe to grow is if he/she is still a kid. (no joke: “As Above so Below”)

  12. P.G. Sharrow February 29, 2012 at 10:25 am

    @All; I’m not sure that the Universe is expanding as the guys that are doing the measuring are using a rubber measuring stick. Personally I prefer a constant state universe, No big bang, no expansion or contraction, just a great wheel of creation and destruction of matter in the great ocean of Aether.. The creation of matter from the Aether causes a drop in volume of 3.14* 10^6 or the reverse during destruction. Plenty of change to cause the appearance of expansion and contraction. Add to that cosmological constants that are not, and you have questionable conclusions in logic. pg

  13. Zeke February 29, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I like when people define their terms like this. It makes the discussion so much more clear. “I prefer clarity to agreement.”

    The particular quality of aether than interests me is its absorbtion of energy. PG has posted Nikola Tesla’s results with aether in his experiments.

    There is also a discussion on aether hidden on holoscience in a column about extreme ball lightning. This mysterious high energy phenomena is hypothesised to occur when a powerful electrical discharge strikes a particular heavy element, causing a surrounding ball of neutrinos to resonate and absorb energy to the point of becoming visible. It is an incredible insight and interesting to consider, esp. if interested in collecting physical realities that can be repeated or observed wrt to aether.

  14. P.G. Sharrow February 29, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @Zeke; Actually I have eye witness to ball lightning.
    In 1965 lightning struck a giant Siouxland Popular tree about 100 feet from our farmhouse. The door to the kitchen oven blew open and a ball of lightning popped out, chased my mother across the kitchen and then went down the sink drain with a very loud bang! Mother was quite excited, a rare thing. pg

  15. Zeke February 29, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    I am very pleased to know that your mother made it across the kitchen and saved her life! What kind of oven was it?

  16. P.G. Sharrow February 29, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Zeke; General Electric if I recall correctly, 😎 electric range, avocado green. pg

  17. adolfogiurfa March 1, 2012 at 6:15 am

    It´s funny to witness the terrible confusion among the “pebbles´ universe” fans. The more words we use the more confused and entangled we will end.
    Please reconsider the photoelectric phenomenon: It is not that the photocell produces electrons: They were ALREADY in the photons: The shorter the wavelength the higher the energy, the higher the frequency the higher the energy. Those tiny PEBBLES you call “neutrinos”, anti-matter or whatever words you like, are nothing else but energy: ἤλεκτρον, (elektron=amber, in Greek), and energy manifests itself in “waves” (bigger or little “Birkeland currents”).
    And let us forget that E=mc2; because “m” it is also a wave.
    E=hν (Planck´s equation), where ν=C/λ
    There are no “other dimensions” or any stoned mind products like that, but a series of tri-dimensionalities.

  18. Zeke March 1, 2012 at 10:16 am

    According to the IEEE presentation on ball lightning I linked, it seems likely that your mother saw ball lightning, not extreme ball lightning, since the GE stove was not damaged. Of course, those appliances weighed thousands of pounds back then, and lasted decades, so maybe it was indestructible, with that invincible avacado green color. (:

    My neighbors had the same refridgerator (it was pink with chrome details) for forty years.

  19. Zeke March 1, 2012 at 10:28 am

    sorry for misspelling

    Adolfo: Anti-matter is better thought of as particle and mirror particle in the Electric Universe. They always come in pairs. 😀

  20. adolfogiurfa March 1, 2012 at 11:46 am

    @Zeke: But both in this same universe. Anything different is the phantom physics invented by a famous Hollywood star while sniffing a miracle white powder.

  21. Zeke March 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @Adolfo: Agreed.

    (Now photons, those are “pebbles” – not neutrinos.) (: (;

  22. P.G. Sharrow March 1, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    @Zeke; I read the article,, about ball lightning, twice! I have also studied several papers about this subject over the many years. The creation of ball lightning in my mothers’ oven during a nearby lightning strike is a clue to its’ nature. We know it is an EMF phenomena. It formed, this time, inside a sheet steel cube during a very strong EMF event nearby.
    Now a lightning strike is not a single current event, it is actually a capacitance / inductance oscillator event just like in a tesla HV device. The “discharge” starts at the ground as the charge cascade travels up into the main charge area and over drains the area of charge. This causes a reverse flow back to the discharged area,from the ground through the plasma trail until the area is recharged and the flow stops. The flow reverses its’ self and returns toward the ground by way of the plasma trail. This back and forth continues until the “circuit” can no longer be established. Last week we had a cloud to cloud discharge that lasted for nearly a minute between two thunder storms miles apart. The dog and cats hid and I was even a bit concerned 😯 As our cabin was in the middle!

    So we have a very powerful Low frequency EMF transmitter operating almost next (100 feet) to a grounded iron box about 10 feet above the ground (this kitchen was about 4 feet above grade over a full basement). The kitchen sink was 8 feet away, made of cast iron and plumbed with steel pipe, both supply and drain. The data on research on ball lightning is that the ball is made up of plasma created from the constituents of the atmosphere, mainly oxygen and nitrogen. I would say that the plasma is held together and energized by a magnetic pinch and this compresses the plasma into a ball. The magnetic field is created by an EMF standing wave of magnetic compression / decompression that was setup by the lightning in the oven shell and reflected inside the oven to create the ball. The super heating inside the oven blew the door open and the ball out into the kitchen in the general direction of the sink. The pinch in, apposes the hot plasma out, to maintain the ball for a time until it looses enough energy to quench. pg

  23. Zeke March 3, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Excellent description of the plasma ball of O and N created in the oven. Quite enjoyed that (:

    I am going to hazard a prediction that the O and N are arranged in the plasma so that the O forms an outer sphere and the N is within, as the elements would be sorted according to their ionization potentials. This effect, Marklund convection, is diagramed here:

    Notice the sorting of the elements radially in this order: He, H, O, N, C, S and so on to iron and magnesium. It is this electrical sorting of the elements in a z-pinch that I suspect would have some explanatory power in looking at earth’s atmosphere. The lightest element, He, is found furthest up. This is not a gravitational effect, but an electrical effect. I won’t go on and on through the layers, but I believe it is an interesting angle.

  24. adolfogiurfa March 12, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    @P.G.: That´s what you have to do: Your flying machine surrounded by a Plasma Ball, so as to defy gravity.

  25. p.g.sharrow March 13, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    @Zeke; the research that I have seen is that the plasma consists of radicalized oxygen and nitrogen as well as NOX of all species. As to our kitchen ball lightning, I don’t recall any noticeable NOX smell or smoke.

    @Adolfo; Well the main coil does discharge through a plasma jet to create thrust as well as unload the shell capacitance. Does that count? pg

  26. adolfogiurfa March 14, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @P.G. What I have found is that the wider the angle between the charges is what counts, as in water, when ionized H+ and OH- have in between a wider angle. I don´t know how this translates into practice….I mean in the application you are looking for.

  27. adolfogiurfa March 15, 2012 at 4:31 am

    @P.G & Zeke: One example that the FIELD it is CONTINUOUS is that chemical reactions are usually made by applying HEAT (Infrared Waves) to the reactants. There are other reactions favored by light (visible range) others by UV light (non visible range),…. thus Waves interact with PEBBLES or waves with waves?. The wavelength of a PEBBLE (“pebbles universe”) is its diameter. No more “soup of words”. Everything is vibrations!

  28. p.g.sharrow March 15, 2012 at 6:22 am

    @Adolfo; “The music of the spheres.” 😎 May well be created by the proton as a standing wave that appears as the electron shell force field. Atomic electrons could be an illusion caused by “charge carriers” of activated units of Aether. Electrons, photons and neutrinos are the same things with different EMF signatures. pg

  29. adolfogiurfa March 15, 2012 at 9:50 am

    @P.G.:That´s right!. Now you need a high power RF generator to make experiments. (Of course taking care not to resonate with St Andreas fault.) 🙂

  30. p.g.sharrow March 15, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @Aldolfo; that would require a rather large RF generator and amp., megawatts at about 6-7 Hertz! Now that would be a BEAT that you could FEEL! 😎 pg

  31. adolfogiurfa March 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    @P.G.: Do you remember the Tesla machine for producing earthquakes?

  32. p.g.sharrow March 15, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @Adolfo; Much of everything that Tesla did centered around resonant frequencies. His electric, steam and mechanical devices were all designed to take advantage of standing wave reinforcement to effect great energies at the needed point of focus. Teslas’ little black box clamped to a steel beam, made the frame work of a large skyscraper under construction shake so much the workmen begged him to shut it down and remove it. 😀 pg.

  33. Zeke March 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    This is how my son reported the incident: ‘[As] the vibrations increased it started shaking the nearby buildings to. As the police (which were by now used to Tesla’s experiments) burst open the door they see Tesla breaking a small device with a sledgehammer. He Said:

    “Gentlemen, I am sorry, but you are just a trifle to late to witness my experiments. I found it necessary to stop it suddenly and unexpectedly and in an unusual way just as you entered. … now you must leave, for I have many things to do. good day gentlemen.”‘

  34. adolfogiurfa March 16, 2012 at 5:09 am

    @P.G.: I urge you to see and generalize the principle behind a “Ram Pump” (instead of water you can use any other “waves”, just remember a laser and a maser), so you can increase the energy level of any physical phenomenon so as to allow it to reach a higher “pressure”). That “pressure vessel” can be a “thermos flask” in the case of IR light (in this case you would have a laser)…or a “condenser flask” in the case of RF, etc.

  35. p.g.sharrow March 16, 2012 at 7:13 am

    @Adolfo; I have designed ram pumps and voltage multipliers. At present the device I am working on should be a volume or current multiplier by the use of capacitance and magnetic fields as well as HV drivers. pg

  36. adolfogiurfa March 16, 2012 at 8:01 am

    @P.G.: Great! I knew it or guessed it.

  37. p.g.sharrow April 3, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    @Aldofo; You may find this paper of interest, a pdf, V3 on Aether and charge at his web site:
    A lot of formula, some art work, and fairly good explanations. pg

  38. adolfogiurfa April 7, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    @P.G. Thanks P.G.!

  39. Volker Doormann April 18, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Dear P.G.,

    greetings from cold Northern Germany with few light green spikes on the trees and 5° Cel. Have tried to E-mail,but it doesn’t work. Yes it’s a special time now. There are some oldies/news on my page:
    Climate is solved. 🙂



  40. p.g.sharrow April 18, 2012 at 7:19 am

    @Volker; Spring has also sprung here in North California, hillsides are green, the Oaks are leafing out and the Dogwoods beginning to bloom. My garden looks a disaster and I am way behind with the early plantings, and I am inside the hanger area sanding FRP to get the condenser shell ready to foil cover! Maybe I need a few less things to do……..nah! pg

  41. p.g.sharrow April 18, 2012 at 7:28 am

    @Adolfo; you may want to drop by Volkers site and read his offerings. Another self educated old man that sees connections of music, electricity and solar system dymamics.
    Oh yes, he thinks in German so his English is a bit different. pg

  42. MaxSMoke777 June 4, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    Here’s something I think is very important, if you can get YouTube to work on that slow internet you have.

  43. adolfogiurfa June 10, 2012 at 7:23 am

    @P.G.: Have you seen this?:

  44. adolfogiurfa July 8, 2012 at 6:24 am

    Dear P.G.: I have added the next note to my Unified Field Theory:
    (*) NOTE:
    Though the above refer to scalar units, which reflect the actual functioning of nature, in order to make empirical calculations possible we must transform them into quantity units. Thus we must consider an equivalent of “mass”: What we will call “density of vibrations”, equal to the number of cycles contained in a unit of space (volume) during a certain time.
    Dv= (ν)3
    And it follows that “Mass” is :
    m= 1/(ν)3
    Explanation: The greater the frequency, the greater the vibrational “density” the less “mass”
    This shows that you will succeed as your apparatus “frequency” is the highest.

  45. p.g.sharrow July 8, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @Adolfo; we shall see. The LC circuits are designed to resonate around 18Khz to 23Khz. I would expect the actual frequency to be a bit lower due to load loses. As the device gets larger the frequency would be lower so harmonics might become important. Way too many moving parts for one brain to keep track of.
    For most of the last month I have been catching up on farming and gardening. Now that I have caught up I must try to get the Aluminum cover on the FRP shell so electrical testing can begin.
    The BIG KIDS at CERN have almost caught up with me on their understanding of mass/inertia causes, at least that is my understanding of their papers presented at last weeks conference.
    They may need a few billion more dollars to prove it. pg

  46. Brian H July 20, 2012 at 4:16 am

    Bah! Pure ignorance. Your uses of “its” and “it’s” are 100% reversed and wrong.

    This obviously invalidates everything you are doing and thinking!

    his, hers, its;
    he’s, she’s, it’s.
    🙂 😀

  47. p.g.sharrow July 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    @Brian; I’ve got a good excuse, I’m dyslexic and often get things Backwards, reversed, sometimes even upside down. 😆 pg

  48. p.g.sharrow March 14, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Something new popped up in my email:

    Has Space Station Spectrometer Found Dark Matter?

    Has Space Station Spectrometer Found Dark Matter? Big news may be coming out of the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s annual meeting — specifically about dark matter, the mysterious and, until now, undetectable substance permeating the universe. Scientists are publishing a paper that discusses the findings from the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, a particle collector mounted on the outside of the International Space Station. The spectrometer was installed on the space station in May 2011 and was designed to detect the positrons and electrons produced by dark matter annihilations in the Milky Way. Though the researchers’ comments are measured about what the published research will reveal about dark matter, physicist Samuel Ting promises, “it will not be a minor paper.”

    This was connected to a promo for the company that created the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer. I guess we will have to wait for more information. 😦 pg

  49. p.g.sharrow October 30, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    It appears that the professionals have failed again in their hunt for Dark Matter:

    Researchers at Homestake Mine as well as on the international space station have yet to receive positive proof of the existence of dark matter/energy.
    “The most advanced Earth-based search for the mysterious material that has mass but cannot be seen turned up “absolutely no signal” of dark matter, said Richard Gaitskell of Brown University, a scientist working on the Large Underground Xenon experiment, or LUX. A detector attached to the International Space Station has so far failed to find any dark matter either.”

    Maybe they should consult me before they design their next experiment as they don’t seem to understand boundary layer effects in fluid dynamics as well as electro-static field interference. pg

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