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Atmosphere Heat

Atmospherics of heat and water

Troposphere Atmospheric Heat

The Troposphere

The Troposphere is that part of the atmosphere below the tropopause that is the active area of climate and weather and is the focus of this post. Water is the main active controlling constituent of this level of the atmosphere.

The tropopause is the level that pressure and temperature limit water vapor existence. Above is the Stratosphere.

In the artwork to the left we see light blue, to signify water vapor rising and dark blue, water descending.  As water vapor cools it reaches the dew point and condenses to water and creates clouds, fog or dew on objects. Water vapor as a gas molecule is 68% of the mass or weight of oxygen and nitrogen molecules and rises in massive amounts of convection, this creates clouds as the vapor cools above the dew point level and condenses. Water vapor occupies 1600 times the space that condensed water occupies, thus creating low pressure inside the cloud being formed. Much of the water vapor originates from the surface as water evaporates from land and sea. The rest is evaporated water already in the air as clouds and precipitation.

“Gravity concentrates matter and energy toward the planetary surface. This creates the “Ideal” lapse rate.The hydro cycle is an effective heat pump, moving energy from near the surface up towards the tropopause for radiation to space, superimposed on the ‘ideal’ lapse rate which is always in the background. Surface atmospheric motion at, and just above, the surface are subjected to an enhanced Coriolis effect ~at the region of the Ferrel Cells, which encourages circular atmospheric motion relative to the surface. This moves ‘weather’ atmospheric conditions, about in the Troposphere. Solar heating of the Troposphere changes it’s volume and therefor altitude and latitude of weather conditions. The Oceans are a vital part of the Troposphere as they are a massive reservoir of water and solar energy for the hydro cycle that moves energy from the surface to the Tropopause at the base of the Stratosphere for radiation to space”.  from comment on

Atmosphere Heat 2

Atmosphere heat depth from tropics to polar regions

19 responses to “Atmosphere Heat

  1. tallbloke February 12, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    Very nice PG. I like the layout and style. Perhaps the main thing still to be added is advection – wind and thermals. I see your blue wiggle down the centre representing the descent of cold air? Perhaps this could be continued back upwards with a warm thermal. Some lateral wind developing form clear sunlit sections towards the cloud shadowed sections too.



  2. P.G. Sharrow February 13, 2012 at 10:09 am

    @Tallbloke; Thank you for your observation. I will have to redo those little blue squiggles as air movement was not the idea I was trying to convey. Air movements will be covered in another page based on the same basic style as well as climate in a third. Stephen paints much better word pictures then I. His energy bands are a key concept to understand altitude and latitude changes in climate. The pressure importance that N&Z pointed out was great but their math was confusing and really needs a redo. Too much circular thinking and fudge factors. Vapor pressure on water is the controlling factor of our atmospheric system. I will try to create a pictorial on that subject next. pg

  3. adolfogiurfa February 13, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    @P.G: Beautiful graph above, but storms, thunderstorms and hurricanes are lacking. You know how refreshing these phenomena are!, just imagine yourself suffering the asphyxiating heat of a summer afternoon, feeling “charged” to the rim of your capacitance, and there it comes the “discharge” of the elements!.
    Charges preside and govern over nature around us and their loving affairs, though sometimes frightening, make life flourish on earth.
    Or…you just prefer not being “offensive” or “blasphemous” in order not to disturb in excess the minds of Hollywood scientists, and speak only of “temperature”, “warm”, “cold”, “climate·, etc.

  4. P.G. Sharrow February 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    @Aldolfo; Sorry, there is only so much information that can be included in one picture! This is only one of a series. Hurricane / Typhoon would be one page on its’ own. Also need a page on altitude / latitude effects on weather / climate. Many, many things to do in my spare time. That water – heat pictorial took 12 hours to get acceptable. The next will be created on that base and should take less time. Any suggestions to improve conveying the concepts would be appreciated as I can change the art work and upload. And while I’m resting 😎 I can type up explanations below the artwork at the head of each post. pg

  5. Zeke February 13, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Very nice graphic. I could not see the arrow points this morning, but now in the evening I can see them just fine. Could you make them a little larger?

    PS Adolfo, I think it would look better with some lightning bolts below, and some gamma ray bursts from the tops of the clouds. But for a heat budget, he has succeeded gorgeously at what he set out to portray (:

    Since you and I find charged particles – and in particular electrons – so much more interesting, entrancing, and powerful than heat, I posted an electron density chart for you, and will find the image credit for it shortly.

  6. adolfogiurfa February 14, 2012 at 5:05 am

    @Zeke: Excellent graph!. It includes everything, also the “dark mode plasma” (not visible plasma). Before it rains clouds discharge independently of the fact if there are lightnings, because it is the only way HOH (hydrogen hydroxide) turns into H2O (di-hydrogen oxide), (charged water-vapour- to less charged liquid water):
    This is the explanation of the following phenomena

    There can be no cooling without discharge of excess energy to ground, be it like invisible plasma conducted by vegetation or any other means. When the GMF is unsettled sudden massive discharges can be felt as “quakes” (the “chicken” is before the egg).
    We are prone to describe the world as seen by our eyes, which can perceive only a very limited range of the spectrum, and name different states of energy by a “thousand names”. It is the same psychological phenomenon as the medical student carrying a stethoscope around his neck to signify their status as “Dr”.. Thus energy becomes Watts, Joules, etc.etc.
    ….and I am not telling anything about those plasma phenomena utterly blasphemous to “settled science”, as the “tabor light” . Precisely the more sensible instruments on board of satellites have begun to produce a lot of unexplainable “surprises”.

  7. adolfogiurfa February 14, 2012 at 5:32 am

    BTW: A Chicken “discharging”(laying) an egg, emitting a “discrete amount” of energy: A “Quanta”, a coalesced EMF which will last as long as the field preserves its local field among the surrounding fields. The same in the case of a woman giving birth to a child:”emitting”, discharging through a “gap” in its octave, a “discrete amount” of energy: A “Quanta” called a “Baby”.

  8. P.G. Sharrow February 14, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Damn! Aldolfo; you and Zeke are making more work for me. ;-| I can see the need for another 2 pages of art work. I just spent half the night on the next page for the series and it is not done yet. and then I need to compose explanation paragraphs to go with them. Aldolfo do you have the temperature / phase angles of the H2O to HOH molecule? A very important fact for the actions of water liquid / vapor in the total hydrosphere.

    Mumble mumble grumble, this may grow into a many page pdf paper. I hate paper work! even in a computer. pg

  9. adolfogiurfa February 14, 2012 at 10:07 am

    @P.G.: See Linus Pauling “General Chemistry” pp.440 on. (you can copy graphs)

  10. adolfogiurfa February 14, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    OT:Earthquakes and Rain:
    Not only Pierluigi Ighina:

    But the ancient Maya were able to discharge atmosphere´s electricity slowly to ground which would otherwise have produced earthquakes if that discharge would have happened suddenly:

    For the same reason earthquakes are practically nonexistent on the forests of the Amazon or Africa.

  11. tchannon February 14, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    I’m working on some drawings from a very different perspective. I can’t keep up so I’m not reading at the moment, things will have to flow past me. I hope there is no duplication.

  12. P.G. Sharrow February 14, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    @Aldolfo; I spotted your 12:31 comment in my spam filter, too many links?
    I looked at your artificial tree and the links. The paper condenser needs more explanation to me. I would guess that the Aluminum Sulfate paper has something to do with it? Question, would an alum saturated paper filled canister act as a gravity battery? at about 3 meters in length, a car engine spark plug gap should work well for a discharge “relay”. This could evolve into a power source. 😉 pg

  13. P.G. Sharrow February 14, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    Speaking of high energy electricity, I am in the middle of a lightening storm as I write this. The cats and dog are hiding and my ears are ringing from the thunder. Good thing my house is well grounded and metal covered and my electronics are well protected. Oh yes it is snowing as well. 😐 pg

  14. adolfogiurfa February 15, 2012 at 4:29 am

    @P.G.:No.That paper condenser is a simple one: Aluminum foil and plastic sheet dielectric.

  15. P.G. Sharrow February 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Ah darn, Thought there was a secret clue. 😉 Still an interesting Idea to test. I wonder how many “free electrons” could be enticed to flow down hill to charge a condenser to the level to break down a spark gap? The condenser would be in parallel to the “battery” 🙂 pg

  16. adolfogiurfa March 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    A Chicken “discharging”(laying) an egg, emitting a “discrete amount” of energy: A “Quanta”, a coalesced EMF

  17. p.g.sharrow March 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    How many thousand miles diameter is that disk?! 😯 pg

  18. adolfogiurfa March 17, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Perhaps it was just a “bubble”, like a soap bubble, ready to explode, or….like Ball lightning..

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