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Is a Warp Drive possible

My son pointed me to this article at dailygalaxy.com about the latest thoughts of researchers about the possiblity of Faster then Light Travel space flight. True space flight will require FLT for several reasons, the main one being Space is a Very very large place. Rocket propulsion just won’t do. Too expensive, too slow, too dangerous.  Only Electro-motive-Force can be the long term solution. An EMF drive can also result in a warp bubble in the stuff of space or Aether that can continually be accelerated as it is not a part of Normal Space.

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“Routine travel among the stars is impossible without new discoveries regarding the fabric of space and time, or capability to manipulate it for our needs,” says Neil deGrasse Tyson, the “Cosmos famous” astrophysicist at the American Museum of Natural History, said “By my read, the idea of a functioning warp drive remains far-fetched, but the real take-away is that people are thinking about it — reminding us all that the urge to explore continues to run deep in our species.”

There have been hints in recent news that NASA may be on the path to discovering warp bubbles that could make the local universe accessible for human exploration. NASA scientists may be close announcing they may have broken the speed of light. According to state-of-the art theory, a warp drive could cut the travel time between stars from tens of thousands of years to weeks or months.The catalyst for the trending warp-drive excitement is the Electromagnetic Drive or EM Drive, a thruster that was engineered to steer rockets which eliminates the use of a propellant originally intended for moon missions, Mars missions and low-Earth orbit (LEO) operations.

The experiment that led to the possibility of faster than light interstellar travel took place in the vacuum of space. According to posts on NASASpaceFlight.com, a website devoted to the engineering side of space news, when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. 

But “How?” If the laser beams are moving faster than the speed of light, then it would indicate that they are creating some sort of warp field, or bubble in the space-time foam, which in turn produces the thrust that could, in theory, power a spaceship bound for the center of the Milky Way or one of its dwarf galaxy satellites.

The bubble would contract space-time in front of the ship, flow over the ship, then expand back to normality behind it. It’s inaccurate to describe the spaceship as moving faster than the speed of light, but rather space-time is moving around the ship faster than the speed of light.

Harold G. White, a physicist and advanced propulsion engineer at NASA and other NASA engineers are trying to determine whether faster-than-light travel — warp drive — might someday be possible. The team has attempting to slightly warp the trajectory of a photon, changing the distance it travels in a certain area, and then observing the change with a device called an interferometer.

“Space has been expanding since the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago,” said Dr. White, 43, who runs the research project told the New York Times. “And we know that when you look at some of the cosmology models, there were early periods of the universe where there was explosive inflation, where two points would’ve went receding away from each other at very rapid speeds. Nature can do it,” he added. “So the question is, can we do it?”

In 1994, a Mexican physicist, Miguel Alcubierre, theorized that faster-than-light speeds were possible in a way that did not contradict Einstein by harnessing the expansion and contraction of space itself. Under Dr. Alcubierre’s hypothesis, a ship still couldn’t exceed light speed in a local region of space. But a theoretical propulsion system he sketched out manipulated space-time by generating a so-called “warp bubble” that would expand space on one side of a spacecraft and contract it on another.

An Alcubierre Warp Drive stretches spacetime in a wave causing the fabric of space ahead of a spacecraft to contract and the space behind it to expand. The ship can ride the wave to accelerate to high speeds and time travel. The Alcubierre drive, also known as the Alcubierre metric or Warp Drive, is a mathematical model of a spacetime exhibiting features reminiscent of the fictional “warp drive” from Star Trek, which can travel “faster than light/”

Alcubierre-warp-drive-manifold“In this way, the spaceship will be pushed away from the Earth and pulled towards a distant star by space-time itself,” Dr. Alcubierre wrote. Dr. White, the NYT reports, has likened it to stepping onto a moving walkway matter leads to questions about whether it is actually possible at an airport.

Alcubierre’s theory, however, depended on large amounts of a little understood or observed type of “exotic matter” that violates typical physical laws.

In general relativity, one often first specifies a plausible distribution of matter and energy, and then finds the geometry of the spacetime associated with it; but it is also possible to run the Einstein field equations in the other direction, first specifying a metric and then finding the energy-momentum tensor associated with it, and this is what Alcubierre did in building his metric. This practice means that the solution can violate various energy conditions and require exotic matter. The need for exotic to find a way to distribute the matter in an initial spacetime which lacks a “warp bubble” in such a way that the bubble will be created at a later time.

Yet another problem according to Serguei Krasnikov is that it would be impossible to generate the bubble without being able to force the exotic matter to move at locally FTL speeds, which would require the existence of tachyons. Some methods have been suggested which would avoid the problem of tachyonic motion, but would probably generate a naked singularity at the front of the bubble.

Dr. White believes that advances he and others have made render warp speed less implausible. Among other things, he has redesigned the theoretical warp-traveling spacecraft — and in particular a ring around it that is key to its propulsion system — in a way that he believes will greatly reduce the energy requirements. But ”We’re not bolting this to a spacecraft,” he said of the technology.

Richard Obousy, a physicist who is president of Icarus Interstellar, a nonprofit group composed of volunteers collaborating on starship design, said “it is not airy-fairy, pie in the sky. We tend to overestimate what we can do on short time scales, but I think we massively underestimate what we can do on longer time scales.”

Dr. White likened his experiments to the early stages of the WW 11 Manhattan Project, which were aimed at creating a very small nuclear reaction merely as proof that it could be done.

Still, one of the most dubious is Dr. Alcubierre himself. He listed a number of concerns, starting with the vast amounts of exotic matter that would be needed. “The warp drive on this ground alone is impossible,” he said. “At speeds larger than the speed of light, the front of the warp bubble cannot be reached by any signal from within the ship,” he said. “This does not just mean we can’t turn it off; it is much worse. It means we can’t even turn it on in the first place.”

The Daily Galaxy via New York Times and Dr. David Lewis Anderson/Anderson Institute

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4 responses to “Is a Warp Drive possible

  1. p.g.sharrow April 27, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    These guys really need to rethink their Standard Model of the nature of space and the behavior of it’s constituents. pg

  2. BobN April 27, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    There are some interesting descriptions of the experiments by NASA. Very preliminary, but it sort of looks promising to prove the speed issue, taking it to something practical would be a huge jump, but who knows.

  3. gallopingcamel September 4, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    You don’t need a warp drive to make interstellar journeys in a human lifetime.

    All you need is a really good rocket motor such as my PAR (Proton Annihilation Rocket):
    https://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/bussard-revisited/

    Less than a week to Jupiter and 12 years to the galactic core (27,002 light years).

  4. p.g.sharrow September 5, 2015 at 8:46 am

    @gallopingcamel; glad to “see” you. Just read your link post @diggingintheclay.
    Long ago after studies in rocketry it became clear to me that rocketry could never result in true space travel. Just no way to achieve enough thrust at a high enough impulse over the extended time needed.
    The engineering needed to gather the “fuel” required for your “Busstard drive” , totally escapes me and building things is what I do. And making antimatter totally escapes me.
    While your 100,000 ton space ark is no big deal. Actually I would consider that size to be minimal for an extended mission. The needs of life support and maintenance requires a space going City! to contain everything and everyone needed. At any imagined speed, Space is a very large place with no known service stations or truck-stops.
    For the last 30 years I have examined the sciences to find errors in logic to determine if True Space travel is possible, CAN it be DONE. I think YES! Ok, how. This blog and some of the postings are a part of this process. Tesla felt that EMF effects could result in such travel. and ALL of his efforts were rooted in that belief. My studies also result in that conclusion. “There Ain’t Nothing in Space” pg. Space is full of something that we can’t detect directly but it is there.
    Planck and Einstein said that Aether might exist, should exist, but they did not need it to exist to work their equations. Of course they added a “constant” fudge factor to fulfill that need. As did others. The key is mass/inertia, What causes the effects of mass/inertia? Something about Matter causes mass/inertia to be demonstrated. For some reason matter is stuck within a ball of energy that resists change of it’s conditions. pg

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