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mothers pie crust

Recipe for oil pie crust mom makes

8-9 inch shallow one crust , or the top of a 10 inch:

1 cup + 2Tbs flour;, 1 tsp sugar, 1/2 tsp salt;

1/3 cup salad oil (corn oil) ;

2 to 3 Tbs cold water.

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10 inch deep dish:

2 1/2 cups flour, 1 tsp. salt, 2 tsp sugar;

2/3 cup corn oil;

4 to 6 tbs COLD water as needed,

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For a 10 inch one crust or 8-9inch two crust:

1 3/4 cup flour, 1tsp salt, 1/2cup salad oil, 3 to 4 Tbs cold water

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measure flour,sugar and salt into bowl; Add oil, mix until particles are size of small peas. Sprinkle in water 1 Tbs at a time, until flour is moistened, and beginning to show some stickiness.  and almost cleans side of bowl.   chill dough in refrigerator 30 minutes,    Place flattened round between two pieces of wax paper. Roll dough 2 inches larger than pan. about 1/8 inch thick.

Bake shell at 450F,   20 minutes /until golden brown,  reduce to 250F to cook filling, about an hour plus for the deep dish.

For best results, Do not rework scraps! sprinkle them with sugar and cinnamon, lay out on cooky sheet to bake! a very tasty treat while you let the finished pie cool.

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Apple pie filler for 10″ deep dish: thin slice 6 cups apples, add 1 teaspoon cinnamon, 1 cup sugar, 1 tablespoon chopped ginger, 2 tablespoons flour.

Mix well before adding to shell. Then cover with thin rolled topper and slice in vents.

This post is under construction…pg

14 responses to “mothers pie crust

  1. p.g.sharrow October 6, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Mother’s pie crust was so good we would eat the baked scraps as a treat. Vegetable oil would be Corn oil I think. must try this and compare with the recipe that I’m working on. I need the very best for BlackBerry pies. 😎 …pg

  2. H.R. October 9, 2018 at 5:50 am

    .p.g., it’s not just the pie crust recipe, but the skill of the pie crust maker. There comes a point where a pie-maker’s crust is perfect; flaky and tender and, as you say, good enough to eat as a treat on its own. I call those crusts “state fair quality.” You just can’t get any better than perfection, so the next thing to concentrate on is the filling.

    My mom was the oldest and grew up as the daughter of a sharecropper. She was needed in the fields (ploughed behind a mule!) so she never really learned to cook. Her younger sisters helped in the kitchen.

    When she married dad, she started collecting recipes and actively sought to learn to cook. My paternal grandmother (mother-in-law to mom) was an excellent cook and an outstanding baker, competing in the county fair. Grandma taught mom how to make a pie crust that, as mentioned above, was perfect.

    At church socials, mom’s pies would go first. She was taught to make pie crusts with lard and swore that lard was the secret. When lard fell out of favor, it took mom more than a few pies to get the hang of making crusts with that new-fanged Crisco shortening. I had no problems eating the rejects 😜 It really is the skill of the pie crust maker.

    Mom would also take the pie crust scraps, roll them out, dot some butter on the crust, sprinkle on some sugar and cinnamon, roll it up and bake it. It was years before I found out that cinnamon rolls were made with bread dough, not pie crust dough.

    Before I was married, mom taught me to make the perfect pie crust. I love fresh strawberry pie, We had a large strawberry patch. She taught me a good strawberry glaze recipe. I knew how to make a perfect crust. It was all good.

    Through church, we’d have an occasional pot luck social for us early-20s unmarrieds, We all knew each other from church, of course, but it was a chance to get together and perhaps maybe get a more serious relationship going.

    For a couple of the summer socials, I brought fresh strawberry pie. What’s not to like? Fresh-picked, hand selected strawberries with a tasty glaze in a perfect pie crust.

    I actually got a couple of marriage proposals out of those pies! 😆😎
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    Oh, shortly after I married, mom taught my wife to make pie crusts. My wife was already a very good baker, but mom made her a master of the pie crust. State Fair quality. People who don’t eat pie crust eat my wife’s pie crust.

    I’m keeping an eye on your recipe. I’m just here to tell you that your mother’s recipe will, no doubt, make a State Fair quality crust, but to get there you will have to learn the proper skill.

    Have fun eating the “near misses!”

  3. p.g.sharrow October 9, 2018 at 8:08 am

    @HR; you are so right about the technique being the key ingredient to a “State Fair” quality pie crust. and the crust is the most important feature of a “State Fair” quality pie. You just can’t make a delightful pie without it. Leaf Lard makes a nice quality crust but it adds it’s own flavor to the pie, vegetable oil or shorting should be more neutral.
    Great pie crusts and Biscuits are worth marrying for 😎 ….pg

  4. H.R. October 9, 2018 at 10:24 am

    I had to look up Leaf Lard. It wasn’t around in my area when people were still commonly using lard.

    My GOSH!! What they are charging for lard nowadays is insane! It used to be pennies a pound. I saw one price of $29.95 while looking for Leaf Lard. I closed the tab so I’m not sure how many pounds it was for, but I don’t think it was for more than two pounds, three tops. That’s crazy!

    My father-in-law, who was born and raised dirt poor in West Virginia, took lard sandwiches to school. He was an accomplished gambler, as the boys would gamble their lunches. If you won, you ate well that day. If you lost, you went hungry.

    I recall mom discussing the change in flavor when she switched over from using lard. I didn’t care one way or the other. Jus’ gimme da pie!

  5. p.g.sharrow October 9, 2018 at 11:43 am

    Leaf Lard was always the high priced fat on par with butter. Back Fat lard was much cheaper. During the Depression and war, lard and butter were generally not available so mother learned to make do with Vegetable Fat/oils also known as Crisco or shortening. When my family created a family farm in the 1950s butter and lard were in abundance. Mother divulging her use of oil is new to me, something I must try. She also made a mean “Crazy Cake” that used oil…pg

  6. p.g.sharrow October 9, 2018 at 11:57 am

    Guess I should point out that the finest animal fats were from the internal body fats. these were reserved for cooking. these are Leaf fats or kidney fats. Body fats were generally used for industrial purposes, such as greasing your leather boots to extend their usable life.
    While preparing older animals and wild animals for cooking the strong flavored body fats are removed before cooking.These fats carry the objectionable flavors. More neutral fats or oils are added during cooking to reduce “Dryness”…pg

  7. H.R. October 10, 2018 at 9:24 am

    Oh! I haven’t made a pie crust since before I got married, but I do recall that keeping the pie dough cold was part of the key to flakiness. That and not over-working the dough.

    Towards that goal, my wife makes a small glass of ice water for the added water for the dough. That part she got from my mom.

    I also bought her a marble rolling pin, which she sticks in the refrigerator a little while before starting on the crusts. I bought her a marble slab, about 1″t x 18″ x 18″ for rolling out the dough, but about 4-5 years ago, we had marble countertops installed in the kitchen so the slab is no longer used.

    Maybe all of that, except the ice water, is overkill but I can’t argue with the results. I suppose others agree about keeping pie dough cold. The marble rolling pins and the marble slab weren’t all that expensive. I think I gave under $20 each when I bought them several years ago. I suppose China is making them now, but as I recall, Mexico and Italy made most of them before the Chinese invasion.

    I’m guessing that a lot of the marble slabs are sold to candy and fudge makers. They definitely need a cold surface to work on.

  8. p.g.sharrow October 10, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    I have both stone and wood sections in our counter top for different needs. The Ice water thing is new to me. Good Idea. Keeping things cool/cold might help getting the texture and I know about overworking the dough. Good biscuits have many the same needs
    . Emmmm I sense a berry pie in our near future. Maybe strawberry this time. I have lots in the freezer all ready to go. 😎 …pg

  9. p.g.sharrow October 13, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    First try with a strawberry pie. Taste was right, but technique was poor. Need more practice! Have to eat my mistakes 😎 …pg

  10. p.g.sharrow March 7, 2019 at 1:17 am

    need to save this:
    3-Ingredient Ant Killer
    Ingredients

    3/4 cup warm water
    1 TBSP borax
    1/3 cup sugar

    Instructions

    Warm up your water then stir in the borax and sugar.

    Mix until completely dissolved.

    Soak some cotton balls in it and stick on wax paper or a paper plate near the ants. Watch them swarm and never come back!

  11. p.g.sharrow September 23, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Making another attempt at pie making, Apples are ripe, an apple pie is under way. Added a bit of sugar to the recipe and doubled up for a deep dish 10 inch glass dish, barely enough crust material.
    6 cups thin sliced apples, 2 cups sugar, 1 tsp cinnamon, 1 tbs wet ginger, nicely filled the pie dish

  12. p.g.sharrow September 23, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    up date on apple filler, far too sweet, need to drop to 1 cup sugar, too wet, need to add 2 tbs flour, cook 475F until well brown about 20 minutes and then reduce to 250F to cook filling. Crust very nice flavor, well cooked.

  13. p.g.sharrow September 28, 2019 at 8:30 am

    Second attempt at apple pie: flavor and sweetness very good. Filling firm, added 2 table spoons flour to filling, 1 teaspoon per cup of filler. Deep dish 10″ needs 6 cups of filler. Crust a bit heavy and thick but well cooked. rim a bit over toasted. need to reduce the starting temperature. The Ginger adds a nice touch to the apples and sweetness. Will change the post recipe above.
    Very substantial pie. One piece( 1/8 of pie) is a breakfast meal. …pg

  14. p.g.sharrow October 7, 2019 at 6:30 am

    3rd attempt started well, improved the filler preparation by pealing and dicing the apples and precooking them. 4 pounds, added 2cups sugar, 1 teaspoon cinnamon and one teaspoon salt. filled the pie shell adding 4 tablespoons flour as I went. 4 pounds of apples too much, 3 would have been better. As I finished and readied the pie covering dough the power went off! For the next 12 hours. Crap! I wanted pie for breakfast. Early the next morning I setup the hooded Bar-B-Que to bake my pie. Well it worked, got the pie baked, a bit over baked but not bad, flavor and constancy of the filler good, shell a bit tough, likely to the over-nite with the warmed filler and too hot baking temperature.

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